but not broken, after two bomb blasts at the finish line of the iconic marathon. the attackers taking lives and limbs, but not the will of the city or a nation. >> make no mistake, we will get to the bottom of this, and we will find out who did this. we'll find out why they did this. bostonians will pull together, take care of each other, and move forward as one proud city, and as they do, the american people will be with them every single step of the way. >> i'm chris cuomo here with john berman. we have breaking news this morning. a face and a name to go with one of the young victims of this terrible tragedy. his name is richard martin. that's a picture of him at his communion. something so many families recognize as a beautiful event. he's holding up a picture of his name. he came here with his mother and sister to celebrate their daddy running the marathon.

they went out to give him his hug. he wound up losing his life. his sister lost her leg. the mother still in the hospital. this one family story, on the investigative side is a search for who did this and why continues. an apartment in revere, massachusetts, may be connected to the bombings. investigators leaving with bags of evidence, trace chemicals, maybe, hard drives, maybe, we're told. hopefully another piece in the puzzle of what happened here. >> grieving very much. that family in mourning, and investigators pounding the pavement right now. all around us, literally looking for any clue they might find from cell phone records to apartment buildings. all around the greater boston area this morning. >> we welcome our viewers in america, and around the world, to this special edition of "starting point." our continuing team coverage of these bombings. john and i here in boston. >> chris cuomo, john berman as you said. we are standing here this morning in downtown boston. we're about two blocks away right now. it's behind us on boylston street where these bombings took

place. thousands of people are going about their work today. but it is not business as usual by any means. about 15 blocks of this downtown area shut down. a crime scene now patrols by national guards. this is what's happened since you went to sleep last night. we mentioned that 8-year-old richard martin among the three people killed. our boston affiliate whth reporting that his mother and 6-year-old sister also among those injured. as chris said the sister losing a leg. the mother having surgery overnight, possibly suffering a brain injury. another 144 are injured, including 17 people in critical condition. >> right. and we keep making that point. the bombs have gone off. but this situation is not over. there are people who are fighting very serious injuries. pictures we have not been showing you intentionally. this bomb was something right out of war. it was a low grade explosive. but it was throwing metal objects well over the speed of a bullet out of a gun. and when those things hit

people, they change the way they look forever. people fighting in the hospitals right now to hold onto their lives and families trying to hold onto each other and make it through this as this city tries to recover and the rest of the country as it looks on. as those people are in the hospital, the investigators just as urgent. >> two tracks. there's recovery in the hospital. there's this investigation going on all around us. and overnight, authorities spent hours, hours searching an apartment building in revere, massachusetts. revere, massachusetts, about five miles north of boston. we don't know if any arrests were made in this case. what we do know is what we saw with our own eyes. investigators leaving with bags of evidence. >> they've got bombs that were exploded that can tell them the story. they say they know how they were detonated which is helpful. they say they have leads and they're making advancements on their investigation. and that is -- that is good for us to understand at this time. >> our pam brown is standing by outside this apartment building in revere, massachusetts.

good morning, pam. what do you have out there? >> good morning to you, john. we're about 15 minutes away from downtown boston at an apament complex here on ocean avenue. this is where authorities spent eight hours yesterday executing a search warrant inside an apartment here, at this apartment complex. this is according to cnn's susan candiotti. local and state police, as well as firefighters, came in here yesterday, starting at around 5:00 p.m. again, here for eight hours. in an apartment on the fifth floor, we are told. we saw authorities bringing out boxes from that apartment. at one point, a state police officer brought in what looked like some sort of equipment, but right now authorities telling us that at this point, that no arrests have been made, that no one is in custody. we did speak to residents here at this apartment complex. they tell us that all they could

really say was that there was just a lot of authorities here yesterday. that it's a bit of a scary situation for them to imagine that there might be a person of interest that was living here at this apartment complex. according to reports, the person that lived in the apartment that authorities were searching is a man of saudi descent who is here on a student visa. of course working to confirm all of this information with authorities. >> all right, pamela. thank you very much. certainly what may look like madness with all these agency people running around, we know very well, john, that joint terrorism task force they have a method to it. they're canvassing it. they say they have advances. we'll be hearing more information. this moves very rapidly these days. of course, as we say, two tracks. people still in the hospital. stories not over for families. very serious injuries that the medical staff here have done an amazing job. >> one of the silver linings of this attack, this awful event, is that it happened in boston,

in some ways the medical capital of the world. so many great hospitals. so many great doctors here. and our poppy harlow is standing by at brigham and women's hospital right now. one of the best in the nation. and she has details on the more than 144 people injured in this horrible event. good morning, poppy. >> good morning, john. good morning, chris. and that number has held steady for, i can tell you, at least the past few hours since the very early morning hours. but it's the highest that we've had since this attack. 144 people. that is how many have been injured, all ranges of injuries from scratches and bruises to the most severe, complex, including amputations. we can also tell you that this hour that eight of those who are injured are children. and, of course, we told you extensively about that 8-year-old boy who lost his life. eight other children injured at this hour. 17 people in critical condition. 25 all severe -- their injuries

are severe. they're in serious condition. ten people, we're told, had to undergo amputations. and late last night i was at a press conference at mass general, another key hospital here, and the doctor was as matter of fact as he could be saying look, this is our job, we are prepared for this. we never want something like this to happen, but we were prepared for a tragedy like this to happen. he called all of the patients brave. he basically said do whatever you have to do, and nay were very matter of fact. they weren't even talking about the trauma that they had just experienced. that is the way that one doctor described it. when you look at the age ranges of those injured, we're looking at someone as young as 2 years old, we're told by doctors, to some as old as into their early 70s. because, of course, many young spectators of this marathon and many more that were older that were running in this marathon were cheering others on. that's what we know at this

hour. the doctors, some said yes they have seen injuries somewhat similar to this before. but they have never seen the quantity or the volume rush into the e.r. as quickly as possible. i also want to give our viewers some new information, john, coming from the boston globe this morning. according to a law enforcement official the "boston globe" is saying that 30 people were transferred after the attack to hospitals under a code red. that basically means with life-threatening injuries. so that law enforcement official telling the newspaper that could mean that the number of fatalities could rise. we are in the very early stages of knowing how these people will do, even after they get out of initial surgery. some, we're told, will have to go through multiple surgeries after that. >> poppy harlow. our thanks to you. those numbers that you bring up are what are so startling to so many people. one doctor overnight i heard say it was just depressing what he was seeing. another word you could perhaps use, chris, i suppose is

infuriating. >> i'm sure. but the bottom line is no matter how he was feeling it's what these medical professionals were doing. if you're seeing pictures of what people were dealing with when those bombs went off you'd be amazed the death toll is not so much higher right now. no question phenomenal triage done. we showed you what's happening specifically with the investigation on the ground here. we know what's going on in the hospital. the overall architecture of this investigation very important. the team coverage is on that. national correspondent susan candiotti joining us this morning. what do we know at the latest, susan, in terms of how this investigation moves forward? >> hi, chris, and john. certainly we know that they'll be looking at all kinds of surveillance videos, they'll be checking into cell phone videos. and still photographs taken. obviously they are also in the throes of talking to all kinds of witnesses who might have seen something just before the two blasts went off and afterwards. and, of course, we're also looking at those devices.

the two bombs that already blew up, and the unexploded devices. clearly there is a lot of ground to cover. the fbi is taking the lead in the investigation. >> it will do so through the boston joint terrorism task force. this will be a combined federal, state and local effort. it will be an ongoing investigation. it is a criminal investigation that is -- has the potential, is a potential terrorist investigation. >> reporter: and they're asking the public for help. >> anybody who has any information pertaining to this crime, to call -- >> reporter: so far no firm suspect in the bombings. but law enforcement sources say they have a number of active leads. they've issued a be on the lookout bulletin for someone described as a darker skinned or black male with a black backpack and black sweatshirt. that person could be a foreign national with an accent. sources say he tried to gain access to a restricted area before the blast.

police are also looking for a penske truck that tried to gain access to a restricted area. a federal law enforcement official told cnn that both bombs were small. and initial tests show no c-4 or other high-grade explosive material. suggesting the packages used in the attack were code devices. still >> there's a certain level of sophistication. having made these bombs before, it's not easy. you just can't get it on the internet, make two of these bombs go off fairly closely together. so somebody had some experience. somebody practiced. >> reporter: sources tell cnn that one, possibly two, unexploded devices also were found. potential treasure troves of clues about who may have made the bombs. authorities still have no idea whether they -- this is either a domestic event, or a foreign-based event.

i'm told that it's still too soon to know, either by the devices, and/or other information that they are gathering at this time. we can tell you this, there is a group called the pakistani taliban who are saying that they are not the ones who were responsible for this. however, that they support anyone who is attempting to kill americans. this is the same group, by the way, that claimed responsibility for the times square bombing back in 2010. you remember that involved a car bomb that sort of fizzled and they were able to catch that before it went off. back to you, chris and john. >> a claim of not responsibility this morning. susan candiotti our thanks to you. was it a domestic group, a foreign group? just one of the key questions everyone was asking this morning. there are many, many key questions out there. joining us is fran townsend, cnn's national security analyst and former assistant to george w. bush for homeland security and counterterrorism. also joining us, cnn analyst

juliette kayyem who is a former assistant secretary for both u.s. homeland security and interestingly enough, a massachusetts homeland security adviser, as well. i want to start with juliette because we have some really is interesting information. new news about some developments going on at the airport right at this second. >> so, there's clearly going to be eyewitnesses. so what the police are doing is that they're starting to ask people at the airport to check their iphones. which is really smart. people don't know that they were witnesses. that they might actually have evidence in their phones or in their cameras. and so there's now sort of this search amongst all the people that were there, the tens of thousands of people, to say hey, did you see something? because the chances are, if the site was secure the last 48 hours, which it is because i used to do boston marathon security, someone probably got in in sort of chaos at the finish line. chaos is the wrong word. it's just more open than not. family members, reunification. that person may have been seen by others and there may be a picture of him or her or the people. so that's what they're looking for now. this is just grassroots

investigation at this stage, without a big lead. >> fran, to bring you into the conversation, process of exclusion, not hearing the typical loud and proud we call it of a group taking responsibility for this. how does it allow the investigation to move forward? >> you know, chris, i think what we're seeing now is the fact that this -- the fbi as susan reported, want to be very deliberate as they walk forward and try to determine whether this is a foreign-based terrorist attack, or a domestic terrorist attack. you know, we reported last night that there was a saudi person in hospital with a leg injury. i spoke to a saudi official overnight. he said to me, in fact, there is a saudi female doctor in the hospital, with a leg wound, who is cooperating. the saudis have no reason to believe that this individual is a suspect in the bombing. and, in fact, when asked is -- was the search at the revere apartment related to this female saudi doctor, they couldn't say that. they said no, you know, we don't have any information on that at

this time. so look as this unfolds we have to understand there will be people who are witnesses who cooperate, who are not related to the actions setting or making of the bombing that were set off at the end of the marathon. >> fran, you've been all over this story since the second it happened. i hope you were able to catch a little bit of sleep last night. some of the developments that did happen overnight was that search at the revere apartment. also this news from juliette that at the airport right now they're asking people to look at their iphones for any evidence, inadvertent evidence they might have. and also we now know there is a several block area behind us on boylston street that is shut down. it is a crime scene today. they don't want anyone going to work right there. based on these overnight develops, where do you see this investigation standing right now? >> you know, we read a lot into the fact that there were two devices that exploded, and one, or perhaps two unexploded devices used by law enforcement officials in boston. you know, remember, there was this case in times square with

the unexploded van bomb. remember, these individuals, when they're going to set it off, forget whether it's foreign or domestic, it's redundancy. because one may not go off. so you want there to be multiples. it is possible that it's a lone wolf. it's not that difficult, we're told by law enforcement officials that these were small packages, these explosive devices. they had a horrible, tragic effect. but the fact is, it may not be a group. it could be an individual. and we have to let the investigators sort of work their way through this. i expect you're going to see breaks in the next 24 to 48 hours. >> fran townsend, thank you very much. we'll be coming back to you. appreciate you monitoring the situation as part of our team coverage. juliette, let me come back to you before we go to break here. let's deal with a little bit of the elephant in the room. president obama didn't use the word terrorism. became a little bit of a political football. but bottom line, forget about left versus right what are the practicalities about what language you use and how it may hinder or help going forward? >> what the president did not want to do is panic people before information was in.

so that was a smart move not to use the "t" word, terrorism. but he also doesn't want to give a future defense attorney the ability to say, oh, well there wasn't a political motive with this guy. he was just some random -- >> political motive key to a finding of terrorism. >> so it's a nonstory. i don't know why people are raising it. everyone knows this was an act of terror. we should drop that. there's no brownie points to be gained at this stage. let's let the investigators figure out who did this and the response and life goes on. this seems to me just to be a very silly issue. >> don't handcuff yourself before you know what you're dealing with. >> exactly. we have no idea right now. >> all right, julia, thank you very much. >> up next we're going to take a look at the evidence left behind. so much to pore through right now. forensic teams are piecing together the tiny bits, the tiny pieces of the bomb. they're trying to find what we call the bombmaker's signature. we're going to go live to the pentagon with details just ahead. >> we'll be telling you things about this bomb we haven't heard before that are allowing this

investigation to move forward. we'll be talking to people who are at the center of the investigation, the atf, the u.s. attorney in boston during 9/11. they will be joining us with the latest insights. >> i was over there like literally two minutes before i walked down and heard two big explosions. large plumes of dust, smoke, glast. everybody was going crazy.

welcome back to this special edition of starting point, everyone. right now forensic experts are combing through evidence at the scene of the boston marathon bombing. it is just a few blocks behind us on boylston street directly back there. they're hoping to find the bombmaker's signature. from the maze of the explosives or perhaps from the unexploded explosives there. the joint terrorism task force is on board with long with a

u.s. navy bomb detonation team. cnn's barbara starr is live at the pentagon with the details on this. good morning, barbara. >> good morning, john. we've talked so much about this notion of a bomb signature. what is it and why is it important? you know, bombmakers tend to put their bombs together the same way each and every time, and when they train others to put a bomb together that is the bombmakers signature. what experts are doing is looking at all the forensics. what material was used? how was it put together? what kind of detonator? what kind of fuse? what kind of explosives were used? how was the bomb placed, if you will? all of these things make up the signature. and there is a vast body of evidence over the years in iraq, in afghanistan, through terrorist attacks overseas, attacks here at home. the fbi, along with the military, has put together hundreds, if not thousands, of

bombmakers signatures from material they've collected. so they're going to look at this scene and then see if it matches up in any way with something they already know about other incidents. they hope that this will be a valuable clue in leading them down the road. was it some type of foreign attack? was it a home grown terrorist? these are the kind of things they're looking at right now. john? >> and it's happening right on the ground, right behind us on boylston street. just one of the parts in the investigation unfolding this morning. barbara starr at the pentagon. our thanks to you. >> you know, in the investigative capacity, looking at what they know, the familiar, but dealing with this event, yesterday so much about the unknown. we're joined now by dr. albert pendleton, orthopedic surgeon doing his residency in boston. you came from down south. thank you so much for the good work you did yesterday. tell us about the experience of being here to help out with marathon-type problems and dealing with this urgency? >> we're actually really well

set up for this. for this situation, because we literally had like a field hospital right on site. i mean you couldn't have had a larger group of physicians in one spot, you know. basically probably had 50 physicians, 50 nurses, 50 athletic trainers all ready to go. so as soon as everything happened, you could see from the footage, people pulling down the barricade, you know, i helped some people get back to the medical tent and then they told all the doctors to go back out there. we went out there and there was probably four people on every single person who was down in that area, starting ivs, getting back boards and gurneys and shuttled into the medical tent. where there's a gentleman in there, 200 beds in there, so we're pretty well set up for this. >> you had the capacity. but how about the calm? how did you keep it together looking at injuries like this? >> i mean, we -- we're not -- this isn't, you know, a huge -- i mean, it obviously was very emotional and shocking but as

you see with other doctors we've seen on tv, you just work. you're just going to go for it. i'm going to try to help as many people as i can, and there's some great leaders in there who are organizing the areas and having triage in one spot. sick people here, not as sick people here and do what you can to help. >> you were one of those first responders we always talk about, not running away from the incident, but running right in to it. we spoke last night, you sounded exhausted. this must have been some kind of day that you had. some kind of afternoon. tell me about the nature of the injuries you were seeing right at that moment. >> it was horrific. but, you know, basically what we all agreed on after we talked to each other is basically like the bombs took out the legs of everybody. so it was all lower extremities. basically knee down from everybody, and it was just, you know, really, really bad injuries from here down. that was the bulk of the injuries was just, you know, 15 or 20 people, all right there, with just, you know --

>> what do you have to do to keep people in that situation from bleeding out? obviously that's a risk. >> we were getting tourniquets on as many people as possible, and then ivs. so stopping the bleeding and getting the fluids in just as fast as you can. >> you thought you'd be dealing with dehydration, torn hamstr g hamstrings, bum knees and you find yourself on the ground doing tourniquets for people whose legs have just been shattered. >> i'm more prepared to take that as an orthopedic surgeon than the dehydration. i was more helpful. basically -- everybody was there, we had cardiologists, orthopedic surgeons, e.r. doctors, so we were, you know, everybody just jumped right in to, you know, do the basics that we do, which is fluids, stopping bleeding. >> you used the word luck before and i think that really applies here. >> right people at the right place at the right time, and then a little bit something extra, doctor, it is amazing how many people you got out of that scene yesterday. >> thank you. >> appreciate it.

>> dr. albert pendleton who was working at children's hospital right now. our thanks to you. >> boy, oh, boy. obviously it took everybody who was there to make this situation into something that they could survive. doctors like dr. pendleton, the first responders, you saw the pictures in your papers this morning, running toward it when they didn't know if the next blast was due to come. we're going to continue with our level of dedication here. team coverage. the latest on what we know about these bombs, what is going on in the hospitals. and what is the effect of this explosion around the world, including the markets? >> special edition of "starting point" back in just a moment.

and good morning, i'm brooke baldwin with a look at some of the day's top stories including north korea. leaders there now saying they will not give any warning before attacking south yee yeah. meantime, leaders in south korea say the leaders there are regrettable. also in south korea this morning a u.s. marine helicopter went down close to the border there with the north. you see, some of these pictures we are just now getting in. the smoke, the fire, the aftermath, u.s. military calling it a hard landing. the marines were taking part in a drill. there were some injuries, but all the marines reportedly will be okay. want to turn to alison kosik with a look at how the markets are reacting to what happened. the horrific incident in boston yesterday and how hopefully the opening will be a bit better this morning. >> looks like the opening is going to be better. you're seeing investors less on edge this morning. when we got news about the bombings in boston, you saw stocks continue to accelerate

lower. you can wind up hitting about half of that 266 point drop from the dow to those bombings in boston. but, this morning it looks like investors are sort of processed the fact that although obviously it's terrible what happened in boston, it could have been much, much worse. that the bombings themselves aren't growing. that kind of thing. so wall street's looking at it, i guess, as something that was sort of isolated. >> okay. alison, thank you very much. send things back to john and chris in boston, just a heart-wrenching story there. good morning. >> all right, thanks so much, brooke. ahead on "starting point," president obama vowing to find those responsible for the attack on the city of boston. the white house response coming up next. >> we're also going to show you pictures of people we're learning about who were injured. we're going to be talking to mitt romney's son tagg and give you the latest on the investigation. with hertz gold plus rewards,

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welcome to all our viewers in the united states, i'm chris cuomo. special edition of "starting point" here in boston with john berman. >> bostonians still very much reeling this morning from this shock of a terrorist attack in their city. our city, it's my hometown. as we've been telling you, there's three people dead in these twin bombings at the boston marathon. such an iconic day in this city. one of those killed, this young, beautiful boy. the boston globe identifies him as 8-year-old martin richard. he came to see his father run in the marathon. came to give him a hug at the end of the race, ends up right in the middle of the blast. his sister also there.

shy lost a leg. his mother also suffered injuries in a hospital overnight. we're hearing possible brain injury. just awful. they're among the 144 people who are wounded in this attack. >> thoughts and prayers go out. could not imagine being that father on this morning. everything he cares about the most, in some type of desperation now, or loss. just one story of many. as john said, 144 or more casualties, just as many families left to deal with this. we are following that with team coverage to let you know the latest. many still fighting for their health right now. we'll give you the latest on that two tracks because of this investigation, as well. overnight, authorities spent hours, we were watching them canvassing this city and this square. searching a particular apartment in revere, massachusetts. leaving with bags of evidence. the question is why. no words on any arrests yet. we know that there's this location about five miles away. pam brown is on the scene there with the latest.

what do we know now? >> well, chris, as you mentioned, i'm here in revere, massachusetts. about 15 minutes away from where the explosions went off yesterday. this morning no activity here at the amount complex behind me. but we have seen several law enforcement vehicles around the area. authorities searched a fifth floor apartment for eight hours starting around 5:00 yesterday afternoon. a federal law enforcement official tells cnn's susan candiotti the resident of that apartment gave authorities consent to conduct that search. officials were seen leaving the complex with boxes. we did speak to one resident. she says that she is scared to think that a person possibly connected with yesterday's explosion may live here. >> i'm afraid, because i don't know who is here, who lives here, you know. >> authorities tell us that at this point no arrests have been made. no one is in custody.

of course we will keep you updated. chris? >> all right, pam brown in revere. our thanks to you. of course, again, that apartment being searched overnight. we're still learning what the investigators may have taken out of that apartment. it's just one piece of this investigation. focus right now on this city but in washington, also, there is so much going on. president obama says those responsible for bombing the boston marathon, they will not escape justice. the president promised to find out who did it and promised to find out why. he also reached out to leaders in congress, saying this is a time for unity among americans. cnn's brianna keilar is standing by at the white house this morning. do we expect to hear more from the president today? >> john, there's no official word from the white house that we will. i will tell you that he is supposed to be at an event at 3:00 p.m. which was previously scheduled to honor the nascar sprint cup champion. you can kind of see how that

would -- that's sort of a light event and it wouldn't be far from the realm of expectation that that may be canceled. in fact, talking to sources this morning, i'm getting the sense that that's definitely in consideration. but president obama, according to a white house official was briefed overnight. he's very much focused on what happened in boston and moving forward trying to figure out who did this and why they did this. he was briefed overnight by his homend security adviser. he's going to be briefed this morning by his homeland security adviser alissa monaco, as well as the fbi director robert mueller. and we'll be waiting to see if he says something else in addition to his comments yesterday where he said that the u.s. will respond. >> we still do not know who did this, or why. and people shouldn't jump to conclusions before we have all the facts. but, make no mistake, we will get to the bottom of this. and we will find out who did this, we'll find out why they did this.

any response -- any responsible individuals, any responsible groups, will feel the full weight of justice. >> but here's what we're looking for today from the white house, john. 1:15 p.m. jay carney is on the schedule to brief. then again as i said before 3:00 p.m. eastern, president obama was supposed to be at that nascar event, which would give him an opportunity to speak to the public. but all of this is subject to change certainly and we will not be surprised if it does. >> brianna keilar at the white house. thanks so much for being with us this morning. we want to bring in tag romney. you may recognize tag. tagg is mitt romney's son. he's also a boston resident, and like all boston residents, he knows just how important patriot's day is. it is hard to explain to people not from boston what an important day it is. tagg was on his way to the marathon, watching the streets,

as the explosion happened. what did you see? >> you're right about boston. boston is about sports and culture and history and this day is a convergence of those three things. we were at fenway watching the morning red sox game. we came out to watch the end of the marathon and we had just happened in a cab two or three minutes before the explosion happened and were on our way back home. it's such a horrifying and sickening event. >> i was trying to explain to people for bostonians. there is zero degrees of separation between anyone from boston and people who were involved. with this attack. either know someone who was right there. you know someone who was running. or you were standing on the sidelines yourself. it is a punch in the gut. >> it is. this day is like christmas for bostonians. the bruins are playing, the celtics are playing, the marathon. a celebration of independence. the first shots were fired at

lexington green and it is such an important day. our prayers are with the victims and those who are suffering. it really is a horribly tragic event. >> families, you know, you've got your son with you here this morning. beautiful kid. when you see that picture of that little boy, and that father, he's running a race, his family is there to embrace him and he winds up almost losing all of them. >> such a cowardly act. whoever did this. and then you see the warmth of the first responders, and the people around who rushed to the scene. such a contrast to their bravery. and, it just really is a family event. and it's the best of boston. it's wond irful to see how people have been responding. >> are you and yours all okay? i know it was 45 minutes, trying to get in touch with my sister who works on the block. it was hard to find people. >> we had family running in the marathon who had just crossed

the finish line a few minutes earlier. it's senseless. it doesn't make any sense. >> what can you guys say about the people and the heart that's in this city in terms of how we'll move forward? >> bostonians are resilient. they're going to come together. they messed with the wrong people. there's going to be a period of grief, i'm sure there will be some anger. and we're going to want to figure out how to keep this from happening again. not just here but all over the country. >> one of the things i heard last night, some were saying oh, this is boston's 9/11. no, no, boston actually was part of 9/11. two of the planes took off from here. this is a city that very much has dealt with tragedy in the past, and has responded, you know, with strength, with vigor. it will happen again. everyone i've seen, you know, since i stepped foot in this city last night telling us be safe. you know, be together. we're all here for each other. >> yeah. it's a wonderful state. and family's very strong here and i think this will actually end up bringing us closer together. >> tagg, thank you for joining us. >> absolutely. >> glad everybody's okay. >> thanks. >> you're welcome. >> all right.

so not just here but across the nation, swift reaction to these attacks. americans pulling together everywhere in a show of unity. even on capitol hill. >> the house will now observe a moment of silence in memory of the victims of today's attack in boston. >> the u.s. house of representatives paused in its official business just after 5:00 yesterday. that was a little more than two hours after the bombings. you know, major league baseball around the country last night, moments of silence were observed before the games got under way. this was the scene in minneapolis, where the twin and angels took the field. >> you saw it repeated all over the country. boston college, one of the big universities here, is going to post a healing mass this afternoon. the school is at mile 21 on the

marathon route. about five miles from where the blast occurred. several hundred students ran the race to help raise money for the school. and as we've all heard, the last mile of the race had been dedicated to the families in newtown. they were present here. luckily no one was hurt, and now these communities have to come together once again to hold each other closer in this time of need. >> you know, at sporting events all over the country, all over the world, are going to have to take into account, the celtics game tonight was canceled. they're not going to play it at all since the playoffs are set. london is set to hold a marathon on sunday and officials there say they expect the race to take place as planned, but as you can imagine, security preparations will be reviewed in the wake of the attacks here. tens of thousands of competitors and spectators are expected to turn out. >> obviously these boston bombings, you know, dominant in terms of the world story that we're dealing with since the event draws people from literally 100 countries. so we have the newspapers here and around the world, you know,

we're going to see reactions all day. we're start showing you pictures of the papers. we have "the washington post" bold headlines, kwn an act of terror." terror a word that means a lot. especially in the prosecution going forward. >> the "l.a. times" says "marathon blasts throw boston into chaos." the houston chronicle talking about a father and a daughter who ran the race. it says, seconds may have saved the family. >> so much of this about timing. who made it. who got affected by the bombs. the telegraph in london says the block showed 4:09:44. then the shockwave hit. that period in a marathon when a large bulk of normal runners, you know, nonelite pro runners are coming through. >> i'll tell you what the headlines in boston would have been. they would have been the winners of the boston marathon. that's not what we're seeing on the front pages today. you know, there are a great many celebrities who call boston home. and like anyone who has a tie to boston right now, we're all reacting to yesterday's horrific

events. this is what some of the celebrity bostonians said last night. >> boston is my hometown. it's where i grew up. it's where my family lives. so i wanted to take a moment to say that like everybody here, my thoughts and prayers are with the people of boston, and everybody who's been affected by this absolutely senseless act. >> now before we officially begin the show, we just want to take a moment. our thoughts are with everyone in boston tonight. i have family members, and many friends there. my heart is with you. >> it's important to show how we come together. because that's how you get through it. ultimately you have to make a decision. either you cave in to what happened or you decide to become stronger for it. and we're showing you these headlines. we're showing you these reactions. we show the decision that was clearly made in boston and around this country. from other famous bostonians flooded in yesterday as well. literally it was universal. director ben affleck said such a senseless and tragic day.

my family and i send our love to our beloved and resilient boston. >> co-host of extra, maria m menounos said praying for everyone in boston. new kids on the block, they're from boston. former new kid joey mack intire was running in the marathon. he tweeted this moments after the bloms went off, there was an explosion by the finish line about five minutes after i finished. i'm okay. but i'm sure there are many hurt. of course, there were. 144 injured and three people as we now know were killed. >> and those are the people who become news celebrities in a way. the people whose lives were affected here, who have to fight through it. families who lost. families who've suffered. those are the names that are going to matter the most. we are going to take you through with team coverage. the fight for people's health, and their literally bodies that are going on in the hospitals right now. also the investigation. >> ahead we're going to talk to michael sullivan, the former direct of the atf and the u.s.

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welcome back to this special edition of "starting point." our team coverage of this continuing situation in boston. two bombs went off, marring a beautiful, cultural event, the boston marathon. here with john berman, i'm chris cuomo. we're looking at the headlines. >> want to show the headline right now. this is the front page of the boston globe. you can see it right here. it says marathon terror. and just the awful pictures of the blood on the sidewalks. and again, what's so interesting about this is that the headline in the globe today, every other day for 117 years no doubt would have been the winner of the boston marathon. instead what we're seeing right now is the tragedy that unfolded on these streets right here behind us. >> the challenge, of course, is or the injured to make it through their difficulties, for families to repair. for the investigation that is as

wide-ranging as we've seen in one of these events. find out who did this and why. >> one of the youngest victims in this horrible attack has now been identified. the boston globe says it is a young man, martin richard, 8 years old from dorchester, massachusetts. >> picture just kills you, because he's a beautiful little kid. this is first communion photo. his little white suit. the sign that was probably made by parents and god parents. a celebration of this kid's kind of entry into the world. you know, him going to the sacrament as a catholic. his father, to imagine the father's running the marathon. his wife is there. his daughter's there. his son is there. he has everything. and in a moment, in one way or another, it's lost. thank god his wife and his daughter still alive. but both hurt here. just in a moment something that never needed to happen that has no sense to anybody changes the life -- >> he was there to hug his father, the kid was, and now this happened. we're on commonwealth avenue, about two blocks away from where this bombing happened.

this is as close as we can get because the streets are shut down there as the investigation continues. we are joined here by michael sullivan. he was a u.s. attorney in boston during the attack on september 11th. he was also the acting director of the atf. so good to have you here this morning. thanks for coming in. >> good to be with you guys this morning. starting with these events, the picture and the story really tells the story. everybody's thinking about the victims, and the victims' families. >> meanwhile, while this happened these two tracks, there were the victims, the recovery effort right there, there's also the investigation, and one of the things that people are looking into, these explosive devices. both the ones that went offer and apparently the ones that did not go off. what do you think they're looking at right now? >> well, they're going through alled forensic evidence that's going to be useful to them to determine how sophisticated the device was, whether or not they've seen similar devices in the past. i mean, you know, the fbi and atf have a wealth of expertise in this area. during the war in iraq, they review every single improvised

explosive device. we've been able to collect the evidence from the war zone and ship it back. it could be very helpful in terms of the forensics, analysis -- >> we have to tell you this is the type of thing we've seen all morning here. convoys of national guard >> this is the type of thing we've seen all morning. we have seen convoys of national guard. these are police motorcycles and buses. >> so much personnel on the ground, so many different arms to the investigation, they are ferrying them around on buss and giving them police escorts to get to where they need to get. the bombs, when people are talking about them, what can it tell? the truth is, everything. every bomb tells a story. >> some people look at it as rubble. the post blast investigation, look at it as evidence. two were detonated, two others that may have been a controlled

blast by law enforcement all of that will be extremely helpful and useful. >> what does the number of devices tell you? two went off two others that didn't. maybe four now. what does that tell you? >> it tells how long the person has been planning the event in terms of the number of bombs they have. it might determine how sophisticated one is compared to the other, they will look at the component parts, see if they can trace where some of the parts come from. it was designed obvioused to do the maximum amount of harm. the way the first one got detonated and the second one moments later. to force people away from one explosion, potentially toward the next. that's a design by people who are terrorists. it's obvious too early to tell. >> michael sullivan, former u.s. attorney, acting head of the atf, thank you for being with us. >> thank you. >> he was here in his capacity,

former law enforcement officer. running for senate here in massachusetts, but all senate campaigns have been suspended temporarily in the city while everyone comes together to recover from the awful event that happened in the city yesterday. >> shows what everyone puts first. mr. sullivan doesn't want to talk about the campaign, but about his city healing. >> you realize you have to be together to concentrate efforts, who did this and why. at the same time, people who matter most are the victims, and the bombs have exploded, but people are fighting to keep their health and maybe their lives. we'll go to the situation and give you the latest information. >> we were standing across from lord & taylor, and to the left of the finish line, two huge bombs, smoke coming out of buildings and something else to the left of that, and the whole thing just went.

welcome back, everyone. john berman along with chris cuomo, what we know now. we know more than 140 people hurt in this boston marathon bombing. they have ended in the hospital. many with the kind of injuries we have most seen in war zones, chris. >> absolutely. sometimes people accuse the media of overdrama advertisitov situation. we are not showing the photos. when we start treating those

first responders as heroes, it's because they are. people were dismembered, almost bled out. over 140 people injured, three people lost their lives. hopefully the number stays at three. it could have been much, much worse. take our word for it. you cannot exaggerate the urgency. this being dealt with yesterday. senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen joins us now. elizabeth, you hear what we're talking about. well, people are just injured. they must be okay. no, not at all, right? what is the severity. what is needed to make sure these people can leave the hospital. >> chris, the severity as you said. you can't stay enough about how bad these injuries were, and what heroes these first responders were. so in the hospital right now, about 144 people, 17 of them critically injured. amputations have been very, very common. more than 10 amputations. you can see that a lot of them are centered around mass general, beth israel, boston

medical, tufts medical center, a part of boston university. and you i both spoke to two nurses on the scene at the time of all of this happened. and they told you, look, we've stabilized folks, got them to ambulances, but we know they have a long road ahead of them. let's take a listen to what nurses said last night. >> i treated both a double amputee, a young child and also a young woman in a cardiac arrest. i think the -- the best scenario was that everyone turned from a, you know, this is a marathon, we're going to treat cramps, dehydration, from that to all of a sudden everyone who had trauma experience came to the front and came back and led us to your -- you know, to experience and we did trauma care and did everyone we could to the medical centers. >> stephen sagato reference,

toughest moment, treating a young woman in her early 20s, blond hair, blue eyes, he thought he could save her, but her abd was open, her leg was broken, she wasn't breathing, he gave her cpr, he tried. he wasn't able to save her and she died in front of him. chris, john. >> a horrible story. perspective. elizabeth, we'll come back to you, obviously, perspective on this, john, this is a horrible story to hear and see the face of that beautiful little boy that was lost. when are you dealing with injuries like this, when we saw the photos of what was going on there yesterday, amazing that people are alive today. >> and they were able to save so many. so many people getting the best treatment of the world. >> look, we're doing team coverage on this. so many moving parts. others are here, we'll take you through the latest in the investigation. all left sources on the ground right now, they are doing searches, they are getting

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welcome back, everyone. i'm john berman. the names and faces of the victims in the boston bombings are starting to come to light, including this one. this little boy. martin richard, killed in the attack while he was returning from giving his father a hug at the finish line. he there was to hug his father. his mother there also, she was hurt. his sister was there also, she lost her leg. an awful sight. police search an apartment in rever rere encr revere, massachusetts. i'm on commonwealth avenue, two blocks from where the bombings took place. live team coverage of the investigation into the twin bombings, really unfolding all around us as the investigation

continues. really shifts into hyper high gear. overnight, federal, state, local agencies turned to an apartment in massachusetts upside down, searching for clues. about five miles from here. they left with bags of evidence, but no word on any arrests. other news, three people killed in the terror attacks. 144 people wounded and as we told you, one of the youngest victims identified as 8-year-old martin richard, according to the boston globe, that is the boy's sister, lost her leg. his mother suffered a brain injury. just one of the families suffering this morning. the community of dorchester where they are from, rallying around them. the two explosions happened within seconds of each other, this is what it looked like, this is what it sounded like.

i have seen it again and again and i still can't believe it. you can believe the people who witnessed the carnage couldn't believe their eyes either. >> they were banged up. severe lacerations, amputees. a lot of sharapnel. a lot of blood everywhere. >> president obama was briefed overnight on the investigation by his homeland security, and counterterrorism teams. he will get another briefing later this morning. meantime, no real sign of rush hour in downtown boston. the normally bustling area of the city, boils to the streets where the attacks took place, completely shut down as the investigation conditioncontinues no small thing. where copley place is, an entry to the prudential center.

overnight and this morning, lots of police activity right here, we've seen trucks going by and nearby in reveer, massachusetts, about five miles north of boston, officers were busy for hours, searching an apartment there. doing it with consent. that is crucial. that means they did not mean a warrant. still, it looks like they left with some evidence. cnn's pamela brown is live in reveer. continuing team coverage. pamela, what's happening right now? >> well, john, we are learning some new information this morning. according to cnn producer carol crowley, the resident inside that lives in the apartment that authorities searched yesterday starting at 5:00 p.m., a young saudi here on a student visa. that saudi resident is being questioned right now, but last official word is nothing was found inside the apartment that was searched connected to yesterday's explosions.

now, officials were here at the fifth floor apartment, starting around 5:00 yesterday afternoon for around eight hours, they were seen taking out boxes from that apartment. according to cnn's susan candiotti, the residents gave authorities consent to search. in other words, a search warrant was not executed. we're told at this point that no arrests no, one is in custody. of course, we will keep you posted on any developments. john. >> all right, pamela brown in reveer, massachusetts. sort of a working class town about five miles north of boston, where that search took place overnight and pamela had the key piece of information. with the consent of the owner of the apartment. being here in boston on the streets it feels like there is so much going on with this investigati investigation. we've seen national guard convoys pass us. s.w.a.t. teams, convoys of

motorcycles and buses carrying law enforcement personnel. that's the investigation on the ground here. the wheels are also turning in washingt washington, in our nation's capital. our national correspondent susan candiotti has the latest. >> reporter: good morning, john. federal law enforcement officials is telling us no one is drawing any conclusion yet as to whether this was a dmesage tack led by a homegrown terrorist, either a single individual or some group, or whether there could be a foreign next to us this. certainly investigators have a full plate. they are looking at, for example, surveillance videos from hotels and surrounding buildings around the blast site. they are looking at stills and other video taken by regular people, bystanders and looking

at all kinds of evidence to determine exactly what happened. the fbi is taking the lead in the investigation. >> it will do so through the boston joint terrorism task force. this will be a combined federal, state and local effort. it will be an ongoing investigation, it is a criminal investigation that is -- has the potential -- is a potential terrorist investigation. >> reporter: and they are asking the public for help. >> anybody who has any information pertaining to this crime to call. >> reporter: so far no, firm suspects in the bombings, but law enforcements say they have a number of active leads. they have issued a be on the lookout bulletin for someone described as a darker skinned or black male with a black backpack and black sweatshirt. he could be a foreign national with an accent. authorities say he tried to gain access to a restricted area before the blast. police are also looking for a penske truck that tried to gain access to a restricted area. a federal law enforcement

official told cnn both bombs were small. initial tests showed no c-4 or other high-grade explosive material, suggesting packages used in the attack were crude devices. still -- >> the fact that two bombs were used there, is a certain level of sophistication. having made these bombs before, it's not easy. you can't just get it on the internet, make two of these bombs go off fairly closely together. somebody had some experience, somebody practiced. >> reporter: sources tell cnn that one, possibly two unexploded devices also were found. potential treasure troves of clues about who may have made the bombs. >> and other sources tell us that at least one of the bombs, you saw the smoke from it, light colored because of powder. they are discovering made up one of the -- at least one those devices. they will be picking these

device s apart, particularly these bombs, looking for signatures in terms of how they were made, what kind of components were involved, where those components might have come from to help determine who made them. how sophisticated they were. apparently not very. but certainly, john, very, very deadly. >> they certainly were. a number of them. and the two that went off, and apparently unexploded bombs on the scene that investigators are looking at. susan candiotti, our thanks to you. >> we want to bring in the chair of the house homeland security committee and we're joined by fran townsend, national security analyst and former assistant to george w. bush for security and counterterrorism and with me in boston, cnn analyst julia kayam, a homeland security official right here in boston. i want to start with you, congressman as chair of the homeland security committee.

this is a homeland security incident. what are you hearing this morning? >> well, first, my heart goes out to the victims and families. just a tragic event yesterday, from early on, i called this an act of terrorism. i was a federal prosecutor that worked counterterrorism. the way this was perpetrated. multiple bombs going on simultaneously, mass casualties, spectacular event, fits all of the indicators of the terrorist attack. and we know there was a person of interest, in one of the hospitals, a search warrant executed. not sure what has come out of that, but i know that between surveillance videos out at the scene and the idea to reverse engineer these bombs to find the signature threads to be able to tie it back to the perpetrate and the motivation. but at this time, while it is an

act of terrorism, we don't known it's foreign or domestic attack. >> congressman, i should say, we do know that search in revere, we know it was done with consent. meaning no warrant was necessary. but as you said right now, one of the key questions, was it domestic, was it foreign? i want to ask fran townsend, who has vast experience analyzing this type of situation, what type of clue do you look for to indicate that it might be domestic versus foreign? >> it's really hard. oftentimes these things look similar in the early investigative stages. the congressman is quite right. multiple, near simultaneous explosions, a big high profile event is something that investigators do step typically associate with a foreign terrorist attack. we've seen it many times over the last decade. but we have to remember, there

are also events like the oklahoma city bombing and we've seen an attack at the holocaust museum. attempted in times square, the attempted subway plot using black pack bombs and small improvised explosive devices. disrupted by the nypd. they come in both categories and look similar. both investigators and the administration is really careful and correctly so, not to point in one direction or the other until the facts take them there. >> a legal differentiation there. and i'm joined here freezing on the streets. by julia kayyem. >> a couple of things, interesting but smart. you may not know you are an eyewitness. so a lot of questioning going on

at amtrak and now at logan, of people leaving. everyone there taking pictures. you splmay have seen someone. who did this was probably on site or close to site at the time that the finish line is sort of more porous than it is normally, have you thousands and thousands of people coming through. family members, media everyone. and so someone may have a picture of that potential perpetrator. it would have been very hard to put something there that is 48 hours before. it's not locked down, but it's pretty secure. there was a backpack, someone would have seen it. problem is, for anyone who has seen a marathon there, are hundreds and thousands of bags, people are getting their clothes, warm and thattan isn't just smart police work, it's just picking up on leads. and it's smart now not to make conclusions, because if you lead in one direction it means the real perpetrator has time to

leave, time to get out of the investigation, investigator's sight. not just we want people to remain calm which we do, it's also because it may lead us in a way that detracts from where we really need to go. >> congressman, i want to ask you the final question right now, there was no warning sign. no sense that it was any kind of imminent threat to this from either a domestic or foreign source right now. i want you to give me a sense of what probably is going on around the world in terms of this investigation. going back and reanalyzing intelligence that came back in over the previous week. >> you make excellent point. fran knows in the case as well. we have stopped many of the terrorist plots attempts through good intelligence. there wasn't a whole lot of chatter, we don't know if this is the lone wolf type plot or not. there wasn't a lot of advance

notice. wasn't any and really not any chatter or intelligence to act upon. and that's usually our best effective tool to preventing these types of acts from taking place. very hard to secure an opening gathering, an open stadium, shopping mall, if you don't have good intelligence beforehand. so i think these teams on high states of alert right now and our european counterparts, a lot of discussion going on in the event this is a foreign terrorist plot to coordinate. if i could add one last thing. i talked to the white house yesterday. this is one of the moments that really transcends politics. i told them this is not a republican or democrat issue. we're all americans today standing against terrorism. >> you know what? we all thank you for that, chairman mike mccall, a

republican, it doesn't matter today. and fran townsend and juliette kayyem. how will we begin to recover? barney frank represented parts of boston on the marathon route. a special edition of "starting point" covering the boston bombings, team coverage continues. >> when i made the turn, it was like the first pop. boom and then another one. boom. and then another one, boom. one after another. it was just one big cloud of smoke. white smoke and then the other, one after the other to the other. >> okay. >> it was just crazy. ♪ [ jen garner ] what skincare brand is so effective...

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as we surveyed area hospitals, 152 people injured in these terrorist attacks. we are saying 152 people hurt. in these awful attacks, at the conclusion of the boston marathon yesterday. i'm joined by former congressman barney frank. right on the marathon route. joins me by phone. we're both massachusetts knaves. i hope you like so many of us right now, our hearts go out to everyone involved in the attacks. >> absolutely. t the swings, from so much fun, so up much enjoyment, to the lows of terror, it's such an emotional

shock. bad enough if someone love is dying. you get a chance to prepare. but this swing from everything wonderful to the worst possible situation is devastating. >> we are talking about recovery here all morning, as this city, this state tries to bounce back from this. and someone brought up an interesting point in some ways, the recovery is based on the response. the response yesterday was so remarkable. they stopped the marathon mid point and calmly moved some 5,000 people from the racecourse. there were moments of chaos right there, but able to clear the scene fairly well. what are your impressions of the response in boston so far? >> i'm glad you ray raiised tha. it gives me a chance to make a point, this terrible situation, let's be very grateful we had a well-funded, functioning government.

it is very fashionable in america has been for some time to criticize government, belittle public employees, talk about what people think is the assessment of health care, here we saw government in two ways perform very well. first of all, the government in charge moved efficiently the and rapidly and bravely. secondly, seamless cooperation that you have shown on the program. you don't know when it's state, when it's federal, when it's the city. the police commissioner on the screen, head of the fbi in boston and the governor and also goes to the recovery. again, i never was as a member of congress one of the cheerleaders for less government, lower taxes. no tax cut would have helped us deal with this or will help us recover. this is very expensive.

you have adequately described thousands and thousands of people, questioning people, checking things, providing the medical care. we're not asking people, look, do you have private health insurance or not, can you afford this or not? maybe the government will have to pay for it. and this is an example of why we need -- if we want to be a civilized people, to put some of our resources into a common pool so we are able to deal with this, and to deal with it, you can't simply be responsive once it happens. there has to be in place experts. experts in detection, experts in public health. so on the hole, i would say this is a terrible day for our society, but a day when i hope people understand the centrality of having a government in place. in boston, a time like this, no one thinks about saving pennies,

going forward, i hope people aren't going to think, oh, okay, you spent tens and millions of dollars, which is probably a low estimate, let's take that out of everything we have going forward. this is an example of why we need to provide the resources for our common good. branchy frank, thank you so much for being with us. he brings up the point. politics aside, we have heard from democrats and republicans talking about how we have to come together in this investigation, this recovery effort right now, and, again, congressman also brings up a good point. the scales of recovery, immense. doctors have never seen this number of injuries at this time all at once. some 152 people, now we know recovering from injuries, also the skill of the investigation, immense. happening on boylston street, a little ways behind me, all the way up to revere, five miles north of boston. the investigation continuing at this very second. ahead on this special edition of

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welcome back to this special edition of "starting point." i'm john berman live in boston. we have the president of "usa today" sports media group. he was running the boston marathon yesterday and finished about three minutes -- three minutes -- before the bomb blast. you estimate about 150 yards

away, you saw the smoke, the devastation. he joins us right now. give me a sense of what you saw what it was like? >> it was crazy. i just came through the firn line as you said and all of us were meandering through these corals they bring you through as you get your medal. you are sort of dazed after the race, and we were meandering and a long, and the explosions took place. everybody immediately knew there was a problem, everybody panicked. smoke rose quickly. clear it was a big explosion. the sound itself rumbled the ground, and then the boston police, tipped over, it was immediate. the boston police gathered everybody, took everybody immediately through the coral, called it a crime scene, got us out of harm's wait a minute. >> you bring up a good point. when you finish a marathon, your mind not always working in the best sort of way, after an event like this, when bombs cog. off

there, can be so much confusion. did you feel like you could get to where you needed to safely. >> first responders are great. you see on the video now, all of these guys jumping over fences trying to help out. people activated immediately, whether they were volunteers for the boston police. >> knew. those things went off. knew something was wrong? >> yes, immediately. from 150 yards, i spun around as everybody did, and it was -- it was tragic immediately. everybody started wondering what is this? and then when the second one happened. very 9/11ish. >> can i ask you. not the most important thing, because the race doesn't matter at this point when there are lives lost, the investigation under way. put yourself in the position of the runners still on the course right now, what it must have been like for them, to be at mile 22, mile 23, and be told the race is over? >> remarkably disappointed. people are from around the globe. it's very international. people really gear up for this race in particular, boston, it's

sort of a life event. i think one of the people who ran for the same charity than i did. family reach foundation, was literally half a mile from the finish line and was turned away, it would have been her first marathon. sad, but in the scope of things, hardly meaningful. >> important thing, she is okay, are you okay. thank you for being with us. really appreciate it. >> ahead on "starting point," we want to talk to congressman peter king, so much expertise and intelligence on homeland security. we'll speak with him. find out what he has learned overnight. a special edition of "starting point," live from boston. we'll be right back. of course, i had no idea what it was. i felt like my feet were going to sleep. it progressed from there to burning to like a thousand bees that were just stinging my feet. [ female announcer ] it's known that diabetes damages nerves. lyrica is fda approved to treat diabetic nerve pain. lyrica is not for everyone. it may cause serious allergic reactions or suicidal thoughts or actions. tell your doctor right away if you have these,

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ó? welcome back to cnn's special coverage of the boston bombing. you can tell there is so much going on. so many new developments, including a new number on the injury count and the severity of some of those injured.

i'm joined by poppy harlow live at brigham & women's hospital. we know 152 people were injured. >> that is what we know. so eight have been added to that count that we had previously for a number of hours, 144 injured that has risen to 152. in terms of critical, that remains at 17, john. i'm just pulling up the latest numbers for our viewers. the number of serious injuries has increased substantially from 25 to 41. that we know, 10 we know of maintained in terms of having amputations. in terms of the hospitals, one i'm standing in front of right now, treating the most injured, 31 injured, has remained the same. brigham & weomen's hospital. five more injured patients taken to tuft's medical center and an addition of three injured at boston medical center. i want to give you the biggest update we have right now that i

think is very important for our viewers, especially so concerned about the children that have been injured. i can't call this a silver lining, but it is a slight improvement of the eight children that were injured in this, we know that eight were treated at the boston children's hospital. i just got off the phone with meagan weber, spokesperson for the children. they have treated eight children. are all they all still there? not all still in the hospital, so that means some of those children have been released. she said their conditions ran from good to serious. meaning there were none that were severe or critical condition, we're awaiting word from the hospital on what exactly good to serious means. but the fact is, that those eight children that were injured, some are well enough to have been released from boston children's hospital. of course, as soon as i'm off with you, i'll get back on the

phone with her. i wanted to bring that to our viewers as soon as possible, especially following the news of the death of that 8-year-old boy. john. >> poppy, thank you so much. we'll take any good news we can get right now. eight children are doing well, released from boston's children's hospital. one of the greatest children's medical care centers on earth. poppy harlow, appreciate it. meantime, other cities across the nation, all on alert this morning. washington, miami, los angeles, all increasing security, and in new york, police stepping up patrols across the city. and in the subway system as well. checking the subways in boston this morning as you can imagine too. shannon trav miswashington with that part of the story. good morning, shannon. >> good morning, john. as you mentioned, a number of cities, u.s. cities, on heightened alert. we want to be clear, we're not hearing of any credible threats in these cities. they are taking the steps out of an abundance of caution.

you mentioned new york city, there, the mayor, mayor michael bloomberg, says there will be an increased police presence on the subways, times square, and whatnot. the white house, the sidewalk outside of the white house in washington, d.c. has been cordoned off with yellow tape since yesterday. and a parade, called the emancipation day parade that will be taking place later this morning, but obviously officials are warning or asking people to be more vigilant. in l.a., again, heightened security presence. obviously baseball season is under way. a number of baseball games scheduled in chicago, milwaukee, atlanta, cleveland. the major league baseball is paying attention. let me read a statement from them. "our thoughts and prayers are with everyone affected by this horrible occurrence. we are monitoring the situation. the safety of everyone that comes to our ballparks always our top priority and we will continue to do everything to

ensure a safe environment for our fans." this notion of sporting events, potentially being soft targets like the boston marathon, which has had us looking at other events coming up. obviously, we have the london marathon on sunday, officials there is a that they are paying close attention to their security preparations, we have also got some other races, i checked, john. san francisco marathon in june, billy broad street run in may, indiana 500 festival in may. lansing, michigan, in april, and there is a country music marathon in april. obviously, again, we're talking about no credible threats, but officials in boston said no credible threats before that one either, john. >> precautions are necessary, important, and understandable. the celtics game in boston, canceled. doesn't really matter. the playoffs just around the corner. that game will not be made up.

shannon travis, our thanks to you. one other story about a sporting event which really caught my attention overnight. fans of the oakland a's in oakland, trying to rally fans to start instead of let's go a's chant, a let's go boston chant. that just shows you how fans and people across the country are rallying in support of the city right now. republican congressman peter king from new york. so much expertise in homeland security. so grateful you are with us this morning, congressman. >> thank you. >> what have you heard overnight on the investigation? >> basically, the investigation is going full speed ahead. looking at the components of the bomb, the explosive devices, somebody apparently being -- excuse me. being questioned. also going into any prior intelligence they may have had. no intelligence warnings that we know of.

however, we still go back and look, make sure there isn't anything we missed. we are going through video cameras making sure there is something that that indicates. this is the type of investigation that can move very quickly. the fbi involved, boston police, the entire federal counterterrorism involved. all of this focused on this. and my belief right now, the combination of components of bombs, the cameras out there. any question going on, we should get an answer sooner rather than later. >> you know, i can hear it in your voice this morning, a certain amount of confidence, and you can hear it in the security officials in the law enforcement officials we've been talking to all morning. they believe that this investigation will prove successful. one reason? all of the cameras. the finish line of one of the biggest sporting events, cameras on the finish line to cover it.

unexploded bombs that they can investigate, looking for possible fingerprints there. they have a lot of information. what piece of information might prove the most fruitful? >> any of those you mentioned can be. in the investigation, it doesn't take a lot. these are experts, spend their entire life doing these types of investigation. the bombs themselves. the bombs exploded they can find significant tours leading them to the type of explosive it was, the type used by a particular organization. and elements to use, and the materials we use, and start going to different stores, shops, businesses, to fin out who would have purchased them and information from the community. bits and pieces come in, which may by themselves mean nothing but add up to a lot. we say if you see something, say something. something that may seem unimportant to you or me, it fits into a larger picture.

i feel very good about this. divert for a second. one thing positive, we can offer from the horrible event. it should be to alert people, especially people in the congress. the war from terrorism is far from over. islamic jihadist, right wing extremist, no matter who it is. people say use fterror. the weapon and strategy of choice. we can't cut back on homeland security funding and funding going to local police departments, because you will have all of the federal intelligence in the world. but on the ground intelligence often means the most and for police to get that, they need the funding and the support, they need the training. >> that is a debate and discussion we're already hearing this morning. one of the key questions, is this a domestic source of terror or foreign source of terror in this case. i imagine a great deal of pressure on investigators to make some kind of determination.

do they feel that pressure? do they need the information to say, hey, it's domestic, foreign? >> you feel people at the top with pressure. the men and women who do this day in and day out, they block that out. they want to solve the case. domestic terrorism, islamic jihadist, a number of the most recent terrorists. the time square bomber in new york. these were all domestic people, but yet they obviously had a foreign affiliation. al qaeda realizes it's very difficult for them to get people in the country. they have been using people already here. we also have people self-motivated over the internet. they become self-radicalized or could be someone from a white supremacist group. they, again, entirely domestic or it could be a combination of the two, as said, with islamic jihadist, both domestic and having a foreign connection.

all of this is being looked at, but certainly between now and 9/11, now, people know exactly what to do. there is a protocol in place, what measures to take, and move quickly and effectively and work very well together. totalsynchronization. >> we don't know who did this. we suspect we will know at some point. peter king, congressman peter king, thank you for sharing your expertise with us. we appreciate it. >> thank you. >> ahead on "starting point" we continue to follow this unfolding investigation of this terror attack in boston, we are tracking other developing stories. we'll talk about how the stock markets are reacting to this. will there be reverb rations? we'll tell you about it, next.

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welcome back to this special edition of "starting point." i'm john berman live in boston. we continue to cover the bombings at the boston marathon. i'm joined right now by fran

townsend. cnn national security analyst, and former assistant to the president george w. bush for homeland security and counterterrorism. and joined by cnn analyst juliette kaayem. one bit of news. we understand that president obama will hold meetings tonight with members of his cabinet, as well as counterterrorism officials and homeland security officials. fran, bring us inside that room. inside that meeting. what is the nature of things that will be discussed there? >> going into that, we know president obama has been briefed on a regular basis by homeland security adviser, lisa monaco, and fbi director bob mueller, what happens as he gets these updates, he pulls his cabinet together and they will, one, give them a common view of what the situation is, what the risks are, what they know and what they don't know what are the key

questions they are trying to get answered right now? the president will give clear direction to cabinet members how they can support bob muller and the department of homeland security in aiding state and local officials and helping to reach out to international allies who have information. it really isn't means for the president to show leadership in his cabinet. give direction and make sure that every one of the cabinet members understands what the roles and responsibilities are to assist the united states in solving the investigation. >> we alwaysee commander in chi consoler in chief. what is appropriate for the president to say on days like this, and what things he should stay away from. >> the cabinet meeting is to make sure there is one message. cabinet officials have their own press offenses, they are going to be out and about.

make sure everyone is on the same page. essentially a confident response, a calm sense of getting back to normal. and the investigation is going full throttle. a number of different messages, different cabinet members will take the pieces. he wants to make sure they are all on message. and the tone of yesterday we're not going to call it a certain thing, it doesn't really matter and the support of local, state and federal agencies, we're in the middle of an investigation this is not time to either so we're done or get people panicked. we need to let the investigation go forward. >> fran, we've talked to you, cnn has since yesterday. we want to thank you through the calm guidance through this thing. since i last spoke to you probably 30 minutes ago, there have been more xwodevelopments. this search of an apartment in revere, massachusetts, it was conducted with the consent of the person who lived in the

apartment, meaning no search warrant necessary. i'm wondering if you can indicate the significance of that? >> you know, john, actually, it's interesting, because consistent with this, the source i spoke to earlier this morning, i was told the saudi was completely cooperative. that's an indication, that they consented to a search of the apartment, they had nothing to find it doesn't appear there was anything of significance found in the apartment. there will be lots of thesekins of searches and lots of these sources of interviews, people around the scene, and they will shake out but won't be of real significance. >> it is so important to keep all of these developments in perspective. which is why we are so grateful to have you, fran townsend and you, juliette kaayem. >> when something like this happens, there are reverb rations around the country and

around the world there are market implications. i want to turn to alison kosik in new york. we are hearing there will be a moment of silence at the new york stock exchange. >> not only at the new york stock exchange and nasdaq as well. a moment of silence at 9:20 a.m. before the bells ring on wall street. trading will resume at 9:30 as normal. meantime, dow futures up 100 points. yesterday the bombings in boston happened during the trading day and you can see reaction there. stocks plunged. today, stocks up, gold prices bouncing back and fresh data in this morning. showing new home construction jumped more than expected last month. overseas asian markets ended mixed. european markets down slightly right now. concern, not translating to huge losses. the way wall street sees this, the bombings, as terrible as they are, didn't grow into a worse situation. didn't hit specific industries.

after a terror attack, once the long term impact is assessed, the market usually gets to precrisis levels. before the bombing, stocks were doing well. s & p up about 9% this year. >> allison, thank you so much. so interesting, dow futures up 100 points in a way the market giving its seal of approval, so the responsibility here and really the national resilience that is being scene at this point. appreciate it, allison. ahead on "starting point," horrifying moments for runners preparing to cross the finish line. happened seconds before they crossed the finish line. we'll talk to a woman who filmed this shocking video of the moment the first bomb went off. we'll hear her amazing story. you're watching "starting point." [ male announcer ] how do you get your bounce?

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coverage of the bombings in boston. right at the finish line of the bombings in boston marathon. live on the streets in boston. where the investigation is very much unfolding righted here as we speak. one of the most remarkable things to come out of the event are the pictures at the finish line. so many people have camera phones now. pictures of so many things these days, these pictures, man, are dramatic. one of the persons who took some of the most dramatic pictures, jennifer tracy was actually

filming, taping whatever you call it on your cell phone as she was running, as she was approaching the finish line and she saw the first explosion go off. and you are looking at the amazing video right there. i am joining on the phone by jennifer tracy. you know, gosh. what was going through your head? first, are you running the marathon, right? i don't known are you thinking that clearly. what was going through your head? >> at first i thought it was fireworks, because it was such a loud, celebratory crowd. it was just a very loud scene, so i thought perhaps it was fireworks when i saw the explosion, but then when i saw the smoke and reaction, i knew it was something horrible. >> and as soon as you know it's something horrible. what next? what do you do then? >> my immediate reaction was to seek cover. so i ran into the -- the lobby of the building i was running

near. with a lot of the other runners, and, you know, people along the sidewalk. >> it must just be a scene of chaos and confusion, seeking cover in the lobby of a little right there. how long before you had a sense of what you should be doing? >> well, my immediate response was to find my family. you know, i -- you know, i had a problem trying to find my husband and kids. they had seen me at mile 22, so i knew they were trying to find me at the finish line. so that's what in my mind was what i should be doing. >> i cannot imagine. i met my wife once as she was running the boston marathon right at the finish line right there. i can't imagine finishing a race, after 26 miles, being cloudy to begin with, and then worrying about the well-being of

your family. is everyone okay in your family? >> yes. yes. thankfully we were able to find each other after about i would say 30 to 45 minutes. and, you know, my son, who is 13, is still shaken up, but we are thankfully safe and sound. >> thankfully as you say, so grateful. so pleased are you okay and your family is okay. jennifer treacy, thank you so being with us. the pictures you took frankly amazing and flat-out chilling. the continuing coverage of explosions, terror attack in boston. we'll bring you the latest developments in the investigation as it unfolds all around us. stay with us. ♪ to more efficient pick-ups. ♪ wireless is limitless. ♪

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